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and to me, one of the great untold stories is not just obama versus romney. it is obama versus karl rove and he's in behind the scenes the whole time and he has put together over $1 billion that will be spent in these last two months. read new york here are not going to see much spent in the battleground states. and he's become king of the sub two. he has cover when you put this together money with money romney has raised the republican national committee is a total of about $1.8 billion. to put that in this, in no way, mccain had 375 million to spend, so this is a fact or a five. you'll start seeing it come out now. the other thing i want to discuss about him, is susie really? what does he do? is a political operative. how does he operate? what does he do? i talked to a couple services. one said there is a dark and terrible beauty about what he does. i have another source is a former cia agent named larry johnson had told me that camino, the cia covert an awful lot from karl rove and the way his deniability and office operations he does. he's both very commi
and to me, one of the great untold stories is not just obama versus romney. it is obama versus karl rove and he's in behind the scenes the whole time and he has put together over $1 billion that will be spent in these last two months. read new york here are not going to see much spent in the battleground states. and he's become king of the sub two. he has cover when you put this together money with money romney has raised the republican national committee is a total of about $1.8 billion. to...
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barack obama, i heard, on that debate stage, was the barack obama i have been listening to now for four years. he sounded very much like himself. i don't think he was terribly bad. i think he has a very weak case and i think the circumstances in the country present the challenging candidate with all kinds of opportunities. mitt romney was on his game and took advantage of those opportunities. the president is saddled with weak circumstances and therefore a weak case and it's not surprising to me that he didn't argue it very well and the other thing is, despite the -- his reputation as being a world cass orator, and maybe he is with' set speech but there is not a lot of evidence he was a great debater and put them together an i don't think it is as big a shock as the president's supporters on the left feel. i think they thought he was ten feet tall and he's not ten feet tall and never has been. >> chris: mara, about the specific issue of -- doing fact checking of romney and continue to press. i don't think it is accurate, the $5 trillion tax cut, they talk about, well in fact the place w
barack obama, i heard, on that debate stage, was the barack obama i have been listening to now for four years. he sounded very much like himself. i don't think he was terribly bad. i think he has a very weak case and i think the circumstances in the country present the challenging candidate with all kinds of opportunities. mitt romney was on his game and took advantage of those opportunities. the president is saddled with weak circumstances and therefore a weak case and it's not surprising to...
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president obama holds a 73-21% lead over mitt romney among latino voters. that's up from the 65-26 advantage he held six weeks ago. >> latino's will decide the election in colorado, nevada, north carolina, florida. >> because? >> because in a very close election latino voters tend to decide which way to vote. it happened in 2000 with president george w. bush in florida and it's going to happen again this year. >> there was a report from the pew hispanic center a few days ago saying a record 24 million, 24 million latinos are eligible to vote. >> right. >> but their turnout rate has consistently lagged behind whites and blacks. >> not that much. the latino decision polls are usually very accurate because they're polling specifically latino voters, registered voters and the unthus see amp level was very low. in the last poll it had increased to 82%. >> that's understandable. >> romney? >> no, we're getting a little bit closer to the election. people are paying more attention to the election. when you see the polls and try to understand why the numbers are so
president obama holds a 73-21% lead over mitt romney among latino voters. that's up from the 65-26 advantage he held six weeks ago. >> latino's will decide the election in colorado, nevada, north carolina, florida. >> because? >> because in a very close election latino voters tend to decide which way to vote. it happened in 2000 with president george w. bush in florida and it's going to happen again this year. >> there was a report from the pew hispanic center a few days...
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in this case it was barack obama. we said to gary hart it's 2:00 in the morning. yeah, did they steal it from us? absolutely. >> john: it's more likely to be a direct attack. americans say we don't like these attacks, but they do work. in the swing states they now run all the time. >> if you are hearing me approve this message, believe me so am i. >> i'm barack obama, eye i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. >> john: however, most of you won't see those messages. you have been excluded. i'll explain why, next. . [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8... we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day afr day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] e pill eachmorning. 24 hours. zero heartbur boring. boring. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me, i went to the c
in this case it was barack obama. we said to gary hart it's 2:00 in the morning. yeah, did they steal it from us? absolutely. >> john: it's more likely to be a direct attack. americans say we don't like these attacks, but they do work. in the swing states they now run all the time. >> if you are hearing me approve this message, believe me so am i. >> i'm barack obama, eye i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. >> john: however, most of you won't see those messages....
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senator obama voted against it. some people have said that mortgage- holders really paid the price. >> well, mortgage-holders didn't pay the price. only 10% of the people who are -- have been affected by this whole switch from chapter 7 to chapter 13 -- it gets complicated. but the point of this -- barack obama saw the glass as half- empty. i saw it as half-full. we disagreed on that, and 85 senators voted one way, and 15 voted the other way. but here's the deal. barack obama pointed out two years ago that there was a subprime mortgage crisis and wrote to the secretary of treasury. and he said, "you'd better get on the stick here. you'd better look at it." john mccain said as early as last december, quote -- i'm paraphrasing -- "i'm surprised about this subprime mortgage crisis," number one. number two, with regard to bankruptcy now, gwen, what we should be doing now -- and barack obama and i support it -- we should be allowing bankruptcy courts to be able to re-adjust not just the interest rate you're paying on you
senator obama voted against it. some people have said that mortgage- holders really paid the price. >> well, mortgage-holders didn't pay the price. only 10% of the people who are -- have been affected by this whole switch from chapter 7 to chapter 13 -- it gets complicated. but the point of this -- barack obama saw the glass as half- empty. i saw it as half-full. we disagreed on that, and 85 senators voted one way, and 15 voted the other way. but here's the deal. barack obama pointed out...
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it won't be near 5 trillion. >> obama's plan? $4,000 more in taxes on the middle class, we can't afford four more years. >>> from the obama campaign, an ad targeting mitt romney's plan, and calling it just an act. >> why was romney so dishonest about his plan? the massive new tax cut for millionaires means higher tax cuts for the middle class, and aarp says romney's plan undermines medicare by turning it into a voucher. we have real challenges to meet. children to educate, a class to rebuild. >> one more note within this past hour, the president left on a two-day campaign swing through california, on a campaign effort, how else do you think they pay for those ads? >> hey, you don't miss much, do you, alex? >> talking about the unemployment number, we also saw a strong debate, still about the debate. >> well, you know it is a good thing for the president's supporters and they're looking forward to it. he gets two more bites of the apple, when vp paul ryan goes up against joe biden, and candidates have less and less tried to paint
it won't be near 5 trillion. >> obama's plan? $4,000 more in taxes on the middle class, we can't afford four more years. >>> from the obama campaign, an ad targeting mitt romney's plan, and calling it just an act. >> why was romney so dishonest about his plan? the massive new tax cut for millionaires means higher tax cuts for the middle class, and aarp says romney's plan undermines medicare by turning it into a voucher. we have real challenges to meet. children to educate,...
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president obama was sitting right there. he could have confronted governor romney on any number of issues and drowning the distinction. >> isn't our job to actually never mind that the quality of the theatrical performance but to ask about, were there untruths spoken in that debate and there were a lot. >> about that -- >> because president obama was loose with the facts. >> they were minor. >> ah. >> he said -- >> $4 trillion plan to cut the deficit. >> he said health care premiums are rising at the slowest rate in 50 years. >> those are minor compared with -- >> you know what, let's dig into those when we come back. take a quick break. a lot more roundtable including previewing the vp debate and last time it inspired "saturday night live." >> with barack obama you're going to be paying higher taxes, but not with me and my fellow maverick. we're not afraid to get mavericky in there and ruffle some feathers and not allow that and also to the great ronald reagan. >> and later "this week's" other big debate. >> american foreig
president obama was sitting right there. he could have confronted governor romney on any number of issues and drowning the distinction. >> isn't our job to actually never mind that the quality of the theatrical performance but to ask about, were there untruths spoken in that debate and there were a lot. >> about that -- >> because president obama was loose with the facts. >> they were minor. >> ah. >> he said -- >> $4 trillion plan to cut the deficit....
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and the barack obama every day that they see on the campaign trail, the barack obama we saw in wisconsin the day after the debate, is a president who is fighting for them. and this president has to do that in those moments when there are millions of people watching on tv. >> here is an example of the closing statement by the president that people felt was so lackluster. watch a clip of this. >> you know, four years ago, i said that i'm not a perfect man, and i wouldn't be a perfect president. and that's probably a promise that governor romney thinks i've kept. >> mike murphy. >> well, yeah. the president -- as the speaker said, the president got a huge chunk of unfiltered television time and lost the debate because he had nothing to say. that is a fundamental problem of the obama campaign. they have the thinnest election brochure ever. very short on accomplishments. huge national debt. none of the jobs promised. now trying to start a parade about economic statistics and saying things are now just as bad as they were when he started. what i think really worked in the debate was romney see
and the barack obama every day that they see on the campaign trail, the barack obama we saw in wisconsin the day after the debate, is a president who is fighting for them. and this president has to do that in those moments when there are millions of people watching on tv. >> here is an example of the closing statement by the president that people felt was so lackluster. watch a clip of this. >> you know, four years ago, i said that i'm not a perfect man, and i wouldn't be a perfect...
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joe biden hearts barack obama. we will no doubt see evidence of that bromance unfold thursday night. on the other hand, mitt romney's put paul ryan in the position where he has to defend statements like this. >> . >> so it feels like passionate romance and a marriage of convenience here between these two. is that the key thing that a vp has to be is basically champion for his principal? is that what people are looking for in the vp debate? >> unless the vp think they don't have much of a shot. in which case he has to think ahead to the next election cycle. it's clear to me what's what paul ryan is doing. so he should be. >> the interesting thing here, way back when they put ryan on the ticket, i thought i understood why. i thought the calculation was romney looked and said all summer long, i've been behind. this isn't budging. i need something dramatic here. i i'm going to run on the paul ryan plan. maybe it's translated as courageous and bold. they put ryan on the ticket and panicked and said wait a minute. we can
joe biden hearts barack obama. we will no doubt see evidence of that bromance unfold thursday night. on the other hand, mitt romney's put paul ryan in the position where he has to defend statements like this. >> . >> so it feels like passionate romance and a marriage of convenience here between these two. is that the key thing that a vp has to be is basically champion for his principal? is that what people are looking for in the vp debate? >> unless the vp think they don't...
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when obama did it, a year ago, it was because of libya. and in each case, price the went down significantly. i don't think the obama administration will do it now because it will look too political and might actually be political if they were to do it, but i would note that gas prices are starting to come down from where they had been and romney, who is blaming obama for the increase in gas prices is not giving obama any credit for the gas prices actually going down. >> all right. jonas? >> i think that the government could make money trading this thing, and in charge of the spr. and sell at $100 a barrel and announce you're going to drill in the public lands and-- i'm saying that's not the job of government and moreover a political thing wouldn't become a thing it make money, it'd be to drive prices down before the election. and for the iran situation, that's probably what it's for an old-fashioned concept we don't use it because people don't like $4 gas, gas is going to get more expensive every year because there's less of it. get use to
when obama did it, a year ago, it was because of libya. and in each case, price the went down significantly. i don't think the obama administration will do it now because it will look too political and might actually be political if they were to do it, but i would note that gas prices are starting to come down from where they had been and romney, who is blaming obama for the increase in gas prices is not giving obama any credit for the gas prices actually going down. >> all right. jonas?...
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but just as romney is trying to run against obama. obama running against george w. bush in michigan, the question was -- do you blame engler or jennifer granholm. now a lot of people, a lot of people who are praising the president's bailout or rescue of the auto industry and perhaps one of the reasons president obama seemed to have a 7 to 8-point lead ohio which is crucial for any candidate because of what he did what obama did to rescue the oil industry. >> host: ken rudin is political editor at npr including the political junky segment that is part of talk of the nation on wednesday and runs the political junky blog which you can find at npr! org. thanks so much, ken rudin for being our fest today. >> thank you. >> host: coming up next, we'll stalk to stephen flan na gn and talk about syria. first the news update from c-span radio. c-span radio reairs the programs beginning at noon eastern time with nbc's meet the press. today, host david gregory welcomes robert gibbs senior adviser to the obama campaign, also newt gingrich and former california governor arnold sc
but just as romney is trying to run against obama. obama running against george w. bush in michigan, the question was -- do you blame engler or jennifer granholm. now a lot of people, a lot of people who are praising the president's bailout or rescue of the auto industry and perhaps one of the reasons president obama seemed to have a 7 to 8-point lead ohio which is crucial for any candidate because of what he did what obama did to rescue the oil industry. >> host: ken rudin is political...
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in the obama camp tried to paint it as a lie. listen, during the debate. >> governor romney's central economic plan calls for a five trillion dollar tax cut. a 5 trillion dollar tax cut. if you believe that we can cut taxes by 5 trillion dollars, you don't come close to paying for 5 trillion dollars in tax cuts and two trillion in additional military speck. >> let me repeat what i said. i'm not in favor of a 5 trillion dollar tax cut, that he not my plan, my plan is not to put-- >> and there's back checking what that means now. >> mitt romney is going to need to get very, very specific. people are tired of ambu get and he did talk about the deductions and more detail. he's going to need to be prepared with barack obama to come out with this stuff. independent voters are listening. generally independent voters do not like muscling from left to right and right to left. what they're interested in it is solutions. if president obama is going to pick on mitt romney he better well have some forward thinking and explain what he's going
in the obama camp tried to paint it as a lie. listen, during the debate. >> governor romney's central economic plan calls for a five trillion dollar tax cut. a 5 trillion dollar tax cut. if you believe that we can cut taxes by 5 trillion dollars, you don't come close to paying for 5 trillion dollars in tax cuts and two trillion in additional military speck. >> let me repeat what i said. i'm not in favor of a 5 trillion dollar tax cut, that he not my plan, my plan is not to put--...
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obama's far worse. >> i think that's exactly right. the romney we have all seen -- even those of us who support him, will agree he's made some steps andma made inelegant statements and things that have contributed to an impression that he had to vanquish tonight. that's one thing he did, he had to vanquish the idea that he is out of touch. a be november issue, on the tax cuts and medicare and these things, talking about... again, it's hard to see how he could have done a bettered job. there was no defining moment there such as there guagain that will be repeated, i believe. but other than that, that was one of the finest deby reaction. stay tuned, bret and geeingyn will be right back in just a moment. >> governor, what about simpson-bowles, do you support it? >> the president should have grabbed that -- >> flow, i mean, do you support simpson-bowles? >> i have my own plan. but in my view, the president should have grabbed. it if you want adjustment, take it, make adjustments, to it -- [overlapping dialogue] >> you have been president f
obama's far worse. >> i think that's exactly right. the romney we have all seen -- even those of us who support him, will agree he's made some steps andma made inelegant statements and things that have contributed to an impression that he had to vanquish tonight. that's one thing he did, he had to vanquish the idea that he is out of touch. a be november issue, on the tax cuts and medicare and these things, talking about... again, it's hard to see how he could have done a bettered job....
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we probably violated more under obama that we did underbrush. there is a whole new set of questions there. the list could go on. it seems like we have problems with the institution of problems with the ability to lead. i was wondering what your reaction was to one or both of the issues. >> there are two things i would say. one is a general statement, for ideas to win, the soviet union's ideas or strong when the soviet union was strong. and our ideas -- it will only be as strong as we can provide an example. in a world of social that works, i really go back to this. in the election is a powerful force in this world. i am so focused on america. the whole argument and in the bucket did about energy environment is if you can get 190 countries in the world to alegre on one and verifiable limits on their commissions, god bless you. and never thought in the process. i always believed, making america -- the greatest country in the world of -- bar countries will follow us than ever on the basis of from paulson. i have never spent time thinking about some
we probably violated more under obama that we did underbrush. there is a whole new set of questions there. the list could go on. it seems like we have problems with the institution of problems with the ability to lead. i was wondering what your reaction was to one or both of the issues. >> there are two things i would say. one is a general statement, for ideas to win, the soviet union's ideas or strong when the soviet union was strong. and our ideas -- it will only be as strong as we can...
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this one from hillary rodham clinton, secretary of state and the second letter of thanks from barack obama about the same topic. when he gives speeches and he says, people ask him what is your most memorable part of your career he says other people think the most memorable part of my career is the baseball scandal, the steroids in baseball. those records are not here. he was also involved in the 9/11 red cross fund distribution. those records were not here because he was working in the capacity of those organizations so whatever those files are -- so you wind up with congressional papers sometimes too. [inaudible] >> what the booktv all weekend to see more of our recent visit to augusta maine or go for more information on this and other cities visited a ibook to these local content vehicle go to c-span.org/local content. >> coming up, booktv% after words an hour-long program where we invite guest host to interview authors. this week, legal journalist john jenkins and his in his book, "the partistan" the life of william rehnquist. in it the publisher "cq" press details the early career and
this one from hillary rodham clinton, secretary of state and the second letter of thanks from barack obama about the same topic. when he gives speeches and he says, people ask him what is your most memorable part of your career he says other people think the most memorable part of my career is the baseball scandal, the steroids in baseball. those records are not here. he was also involved in the 9/11 red cross fund distribution. those records were not here because he was working in the capacity...
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president obama of course is saying the country is going in the right direction. so, who are the folks in virginia going to roll with? brad? >> i think, they will roll with governor romney and the reason being, again, we have a state of virginia, who is run by a very good governor, a governor mcdonald, who is again somebody who made tough decisions for virginia, when the -- with republican policies and we are no spending more than we take in, in virginia and are forward thinking on energy and unfortunately, again, virginia is stuck in a situation, where we can't exploit our own resources, because of the regulations that the obama administration put on virginia. >> arthel: donna, go for virginia. >> i think that the president has done an extraordinary job in persuading a number of folks in that state, that the message that he is delivering and the work he's doing for virginia and the country is really delivering value. their unemployment rate is lower and, frankly i think that the governor's comments, during the episodes on women's rights, really did damage, in the
president obama of course is saying the country is going in the right direction. so, who are the folks in virginia going to roll with? brad? >> i think, they will roll with governor romney and the reason being, again, we have a state of virginia, who is run by a very good governor, a governor mcdonald, who is again somebody who made tough decisions for virginia, when the -- with republican policies and we are no spending more than we take in, in virginia and are forward thinking on energy...
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it has more than doubled since president obama took office. and, in fact, in places like california, goodness, $4.50, almost $5 and that leaves many americans with a who'll lot less money in their wallets, to spend on other things. that, in turn, is hurting retailers, it is hurting small business owners, doesn't that kind of economic stress caused by the high gasoline prices weigh against the president? >> well, the good news is, i mean, just to answer it straightforward, it is hard, people don't want to spend more money and they'd want to spend less and what the president has going for him is total employment has gone up by 3 million, since this time a year ago and the unemployment rate went from 9% to 7.8... >> gregg: you are still 4.5 million jobs behind, right? >> in the past year we have gained 3 million jobs and since the depth o-the recession, gained 5 million. >> gregg: but you are not where you wanted to be, normally in a recovery, you should be up about 4.5 -- >> remember, though, like ronald reagan, in his re-election effort, the un
it has more than doubled since president obama took office. and, in fact, in places like california, goodness, $4.50, almost $5 and that leaves many americans with a who'll lot less money in their wallets, to spend on other things. that, in turn, is hurting retailers, it is hurting small business owners, doesn't that kind of economic stress caused by the high gasoline prices weigh against the president? >> well, the good news is, i mean, just to answer it straightforward, it is hard,...
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obama leading romney 78 to 17% in nevada. and in florida, obama leads romney 61 to 31%. romney has had a problem connecting with hispanics for months, and in just the past few days, began a new push to try to win them over. joining me now is steven nuno. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> these numbers look horrible for mitt romney. you know, comments that his dad was mexican, he'd be doing better. is there hope for him in the latino voting community? >> no. but the reason he needs to switch his position on immigration is he needs to convince more moderate voters. you know, romney 2.0 is about connecting with moderate voters, and that's the majority of americans who believe there should be a pathway to citizenship and a humane approach to immigration. >> he says he wouldn't row evacuate president obama's plan that's been granting temporary visas for young, undocumented workers. is that progress enough? >> not really. there's two words that latinos should pay attention to when they're talking to mitt romney. that is kris kobach. and kris kobach is the a
obama leading romney 78 to 17% in nevada. and in florida, obama leads romney 61 to 31%. romney has had a problem connecting with hispanics for months, and in just the past few days, began a new push to try to win them over. joining me now is steven nuno. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> these numbers look horrible for mitt romney. you know, comments that his dad was mexican, he'd be doing better. is there hope for him in the latino voting community? >> no....
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obama disputed that that was independent but did not dispute the $4000 figure. and in the meantime president in cleveland making fun of mitt romney. listen to this. >> for all of you moms and kids out there. don't worry, somebody is getting tough on big bird. elmo, you better make a run for it. governor romney is going to let wall street run wild again but bring the hammer down on sesame street? >> and democrats are wondering where that president obama was in the debate on wednesday and people wonder if he will be tough one on one when he has the stage. >>> and the obama touting a 181 million for september we have yet to hear from the romney campaign how they did last month. >> thank you for bringing us up to date from the romney camp. >> i don't know what the right number is, but i will tell you, these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. >> what about those recent numbers in the latest job report and showing a dip in the unemployment. former chairman jack welch is skeptical. meaning that employers added a modest 114,00
obama disputed that that was independent but did not dispute the $4000 figure. and in the meantime president in cleveland making fun of mitt romney. listen to this. >> for all of you moms and kids out there. don't worry, somebody is getting tough on big bird. elmo, you better make a run for it. governor romney is going to let wall street run wild again but bring the hammer down on sesame street? >> and democrats are wondering where that president obama was in the debate on wednesday...
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to vote for president obama, anyway. and i think actually it's probably going to go away fairly quickly just because the romney campaign doesn't want to really touch this. >> the fact that he has to talking about mitt romney has to drop his line about the 8 plus percent from his campaign speeches, how much does that hurt him? >> as i said, he's been saying 8%. the president has been promising 8%. he hasn't delivered. that's one of the main attacks governor romney has been using, he's been bringing up that number repeatedly on the campaign trail. yesterday what you saw was the governor sort of switched and talking about 11% number which is the number if everybody was still looking -- the amount of people still looking for jobs from 2008 were looking now it would would be 11. he's going to say we haven't done enough. president obama acknowledged that in his remarks saying what we've been doing month after month, we're making headway, adding jobs each month but we haven't done enough. >> susan, back to wednesday night here.
to vote for president obama, anyway. and i think actually it's probably going to go away fairly quickly just because the romney campaign doesn't want to really touch this. >> the fact that he has to talking about mitt romney has to drop his line about the 8 plus percent from his campaign speeches, how much does that hurt him? >> as i said, he's been saying 8%. the president has been promising 8%. he hasn't delivered. that's one of the main attacks governor romney has been using,...
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mitt romney was too hot, barack obama was too cold, but i don't think barack obama splattered on the canvass. i think he did okay and he was very sort of methodical and purposesorial which is the way he is. he came across with the way people expect him to be without the sense of humor he tends to show in the public. i thought mitt romney was too aggressive with the moderator. i thought he came away like a bully. the only take away people came away from the debate was big bird. usually in marketing, that is a fail. >> i would disagree. i don't think mitt romney was too aggressive. i think he played it very well for himself. he gave space with the moderator to let the people on stage talk. he was willing at every opportunity to get in that extra comment and to almost always even display his own policy and attack obama. i don't think obama did anything catastrophic, he wasn't as on and romney really was. >> i think as a professor, i sort of -- it was nice that we had a wonkish debate with numbers. i wish the numbers were a little more accurate. >> that's a problem, right. i found myself
mitt romney was too hot, barack obama was too cold, but i don't think barack obama splattered on the canvass. i think he did okay and he was very sort of methodical and purposesorial which is the way he is. he came across with the way people expect him to be without the sense of humor he tends to show in the public. i thought mitt romney was too aggressive with the moderator. i thought he came away like a bully. the only take away people came away from the debate was big bird. usually in...
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he just revelled in it and stayed and stayed and stayed, and obama left. >> what about obama's body language at the end though, did he seem -- he seemed to be sort of hunched over a little bit. >> he did. i thought that was very interesting. again, i do feel like he realized he didn't do well, and there was a point, even in his closing statements, where you felt like he'd given up. he was so weary at that close, and he didn't do what i wanted him to do and that's look straight at that camera and make that appeal. >> right. >> so the next debate will be in a town hall setting. do you think we'll see different sort of body language. >> interested to see if romney can keep up his energy like he did so well here and very interested to see if obama comes up to the bar and he does so well when there's an audience. i want to see some of that charisma and warmth. >> all right. always very interesting. thank you so much, patty. appreciate you coming in. >> my pleasure. >> so that was just fun. >>> but a serious look at the colorado debate. what are all the comedians, of course, saying about it? this
he just revelled in it and stayed and stayed and stayed, and obama left. >> what about obama's body language at the end though, did he seem -- he seemed to be sort of hunched over a little bit. >> he did. i thought that was very interesting. again, i do feel like he realized he didn't do well, and there was a point, even in his closing statements, where you felt like he'd given up. he was so weary at that close, and he didn't do what i wanted him to do and that's look straight at...
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president obama did not win the first debate against mitt romney. whether or not you're happy about that, he didn't win. but if your takeaway from this conspiracy theory in this debate is the reason the president didn't win is because mitt romney cheated, then what is the utility of that theory for you? what is the utility of that information? how do you think president obama should then prepare for the second debate? should he just do exactly what he did this past wednesday night, except keep a closer eye out for the cheating because that is the only reason he lost? i mean, it may be comforting to tell yourself this is what really went wrong here but that is not really what went wrong here, and making the case that it was what went wrong does not help your candidate. the worst example of this though, the invention of a comforting new parallel reality that does not mean you have to face hard truths. the worst new instance of this is how the right today responded to the new jobs numbers. today the unemployment rate dropped from 8.1% to 7.8%. it didn'
president obama did not win the first debate against mitt romney. whether or not you're happy about that, he didn't win. but if your takeaway from this conspiracy theory in this debate is the reason the president didn't win is because mitt romney cheated, then what is the utility of that theory for you? what is the utility of that information? how do you think president obama should then prepare for the second debate? should he just do exactly what he did this past wednesday night, except keep...